Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:00:48 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:00:37 -0500 Received: from tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil ([204.222.179.33]:21239 "EHLO tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:00:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:00:24 -0600 (CST) From: Jesse Pollard Message-Id: <200201031500.JAA85785@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> To: vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl, "Eric S. Raymond" , Linux Kernel List Subject: Re: ISA slot detection on PCI systems? In-Reply-To: <200201031431.g03EVLpa021956@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl> X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --------- Received message begins Here --------- > > "Eric S. Raymond" said: > > [...] > > > Yes. But *I* want Aunt Tilley to be able to download the latest kernel > > sources and build/install them herself, without ever feeling that the task > > is beyond her capabilities. > > Come on, how many Aunts do you have that even know (or care) what a > "kernel" is, let alone think of "building the latest from source"? > > > Part of the reason I want this is for the capability itself; partly I want > > it pour encourager les autres -- to demonstrate, by tackling one of the > > toughest cases, that much of the complexity and anti-useability of Linux > > is an artificial and unnecessary creation of the culture that created it, > > rather than a result of actual technical depth of the problem. > > Then do your demonstration on something that is actually useful in real > life, non? Like making using Linux + Apache + easier to use for > secure websites (I've recently read that MS IIS is doing _large_ inroads > there). That could make a real difference in "World domination. Fast." IIS and the phrase "secure websites" in one sentance ??? IIS can't be made secure, even if it is used at sites that claim to be "secure". This is a different problem domain from kernel configuration. You are referring to an expert system for system administration. Or perhaps a "System Administrators Assistant" program. (How about "Security Administrators Assitant" ...) Not an unreasonable project - just not one that can realistically be completed. Maybe a "good enough" one though ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesse I Pollard, II Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil Any opinions expressed are solely my own. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/