Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757835AbYAQVh0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:37:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754905AbYAQVhN (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:37:13 -0500 Received: from e3.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.143]:41614 "EHLO e3.ny.us.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754621AbYAQVhL (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:37:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4d47a5d10801161802x2c24ef59pf8422c8d14d487aa@mail.gmail.com> To: "Daniel Phillips" Cc: "Al Boldi" , "Alan Cox" , "David Chinner" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Pavel Machek" , "Rik van Riel" , "Theodore Tso" , "Valerie Henson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Patch] document ext3 requirements (was Re: [RFD] Incremental fsck) X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 Message-ID: From: Bryan Henderson Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:37:04 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML604/01/M/IBM(Release 8.0|August 02, 2007) at 01/17/2008 16:37:05, Serialize complete at 01/17/2008 16:37:05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1166 Lines: 28 "Daniel Phillips" wrote on 01/16/2008 06:02:50 PM: > On Jan 16, 2008 2:06 PM, Bryan Henderson wrote: > > >The "disk motor as a generator" tale may not be purely folklore. When > > >an IDE drive is not in writeback mode, something special needs to done > > >to ensure the last write to media is not a scribble. > > > > No it doesn't. The last write _is_ a scribble. > > Have you observed that in the wild? A former engineer of a disk drive > company suggests to me that the capacitors on the board provide enough > power to complete the last sector, even to park the head. No, I haven't. It's hearsay, and from about 3 years ago. As for parking the head, that's hard to believe, since it's so easy and more reliable to use a spring and an electromagnet. -- Bryan Henderson IBM Almaden Research Center San Jose CA Filesystems -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/