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To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, Mark Rutland
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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
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On 26/03/2024 16:27, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 15.02.24 13:17, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> With the introduction of contpte mapping support for arm64, that
>> architecture's implementation of ptep_get_lockless() has become very
>> complex due to the need to gather access and dirty bits from across all
>> of the ptes in the contpte block. This requires careful implementation
>> to ensure the returned value is consistent (because its not possible to
>> read all ptes atomically), but even in the common case when there is no
>> racing modification, we have to read all ptes, which gives an ~O(n^2)
>> cost if the core-mm is iterating over a range, and performing a
>> ptep_get_lockless() on each pte.
>>
>> Solve this by introducing ptep_get_lockless_norecency(), which does not
>> make any guarantees about access and dirty bits. Therefore it can simply
>> read the single target pte.
>>
>> At the same time, convert all call sites that previously used
>> ptep_get_lockless() but don't care about access and dirty state.
>>
> 
> I'd probably split that part off.

I thought the general guidance was to introduce new APIs in same patch they are
first used in? If I split this off, I'll have one patch for a new (unused) API,
then another for the first users.

> 
>> We may want to do something similar for ptep_get() (i.e.
>> ptep_get_norecency()) in future; it doesn't suffer from the consistency
>> problem because the PTL serializes it with any modifications, but does
>> suffer the same O(n^2) cost.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>> ---
>>   include/linux/pgtable.h | 37 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>   kernel/events/core.c    |  2 +-
>>   mm/hugetlb.c            |  2 +-
>>   mm/khugepaged.c         |  2 +-
>>   mm/memory.c             |  2 +-
>>   mm/swap_state.c         |  2 +-
>>   mm/swapfile.c           |  2 +-
>>   7 files changed, 40 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/pgtable.h b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>> index a36cf4e124b0..9dd40fdbd825 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/pgtable.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>> @@ -528,16 +528,47 @@ static inline pmd_t pmdp_get_lockless(pmd_t *pmdp)
>>   #endif /* CONFIG_PGTABLE_LEVELS > 2 */
>>   #endif /* CONFIG_GUP_GET_PXX_LOW_HIGH */
>>
>> -/*
>> - * We require that the PTE can be read atomically.
>> - */
>>   #ifndef ptep_get_lockless
>> +/**
>> + * ptep_get_lockless - Get a pte without holding the page table lock. Young and
>> + *                     dirty bits are guaranteed to accurately reflect the state
>> + *                     of the pte at the time of the call.
>> + * @ptep: Page table pointer for pte to get.
>> + *
>> + * If young and dirty information is not required, use
>> + * ptep_get_lockless_norecency() which can be faster on some architectures.
>> + *
>> + * May be overridden by the architecture; otherwise, implemented using
>> + * ptep_get(), on the assumption that it is atomic.
>> + *
>> + * Context: Any.
>> + */
> 
> I think we usually say "Any context.". But I would just do it like idr.h:
> 
> "Any context. It is safe to call this function without locking in your code."
> 
> ... but is this true? We really want to say "without page table lock". Because
> there must be some way to prevent against concurrent page table freeing. For
> example, GUP-fast disables IRQs, whereby page table freeing code frees using RCU.

How about:

"
Context: Any context that guarrantees the page table can't be freed
concurrently. The page table lock is not required.
"

> 
>>   static inline pte_t ptep_get_lockless(pte_t *ptep)
>>   {
>>       return ptep_get(ptep);
>>   }
>>   #endif
>>
>> +#ifndef ptep_get_lockless_norecency
>> +/**
>> + * ptep_get_lockless_norecency - Get a pte without holding the page table lock.
>> + *                 Young and dirty bits may not be accurate.
>> + * @ptep: Page table pointer for pte to get.
>> + *
>> + * Prefer this over ptep_get_lockless() when young and dirty information is not
>> + * required since it can be faster on some architectures.
>> + *
>> + * May be overridden by the architecture; otherwise, implemented using the more
>> + * precise ptep_get_lockless().
>> + *
>> + * Context: Any.
> 
> Same comment.
> 
>> + */
>> +static inline pte_t ptep_get_lockless_norecency(pte_t *ptep)
>> +{
>> +    return ptep_get_lockless(ptep);
>> +}
>> +#endif
> 
> [...]
> 
>> diff --git a/mm/hugetlb.c b/mm/hugetlb.c
>> index 68283e54c899..41dc44eb8454 100644
>> --- a/mm/hugetlb.c
>> +++ b/mm/hugetlb.c
>> @@ -7517,7 +7517,7 @@ pte_t *huge_pte_alloc(struct mm_struct *mm, struct
>> vm_area_struct *vma,
>>       }
>>
>>       if (pte) {
>> -        pte_t pteval = ptep_get_lockless(pte);
>> +        pte_t pteval = ptep_get_lockless_norecency(pte);
>>
>>           BUG_ON(pte_present(pteval) && !pte_huge(pteval));
>>       }
>> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> index 2771fc043b3b..1a6c9ed8237a 100644
>> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> @@ -1019,7 +1019,7 @@ static int __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct mm_struct
>> *mm,
>>               }
>>           }
>>
>> -        vmf.orig_pte = ptep_get_lockless(pte);
>> +        vmf.orig_pte = ptep_get_lockless_norecency(pte);
>>           if (!is_swap_pte(vmf.orig_pte))
>>               continue;
> 
> 
> Hm, I think you mentioned that we want to be careful with vmf.orig_pte.

Yeah good point. So I guess this should move to patch 3 (which may be dropped -
tbd)?