Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756121AbYATEf3 (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:35:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752874AbYATEfU (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:35:20 -0500 Received: from hawking.rebel.net.au ([203.20.69.83]:42123 "EHLO hawking.rebel.net.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752706AbYATEfT (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:35:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4792CF9A.2030601@davidnewall.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:05:38 +1030 From: David Newall User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andi Kleen CC: Matt Mackall , Chodorenko Michail , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Celeron Core References: <3ed23423adebae08e8f75b6a6a7ce7ff@one.by> <1200702477.25782.41.camel@cinder.waste.org> <20080119011506.GA23798@one.firstfloor.org> <1200715842.25782.95.camel@cinder.waste.org> <20080119042750.GA24481@one.firstfloor.org> <1200717635.25782.107.camel@cinder.waste.org> <20080119045415.GA27628@one.firstfloor.org> In-Reply-To: <20080119045415.GA27628@one.firstfloor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 822 Lines: 17 Andi Kleen wrote: > I think the misunderstanding on your side is relative to what there > is less heat. Throttling essentially reduces temporary heat spikes on > the silicon, but does not make the system overall take less power > or generate less heat as measured over a longer time because it will > be idle less. > I don't understand this, and it seems wrong. Most machines spend most of their time doing nothing, or as close to nothing as they're allowed. Idle, in other words. Isn't it the case that an idle machine will use less power when throttled than when not? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/