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[147.75.80.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15-20020a0564021f4f00b0056e21645042si688849edz.278.2024.04.04.12.54.37 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 04 Apr 2024 12:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-132061-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 147.75.80.249 as permitted sender) client-ip=147.75.80.249; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=eWYsq6cd; arc=pass (i=1 dkim=pass dkdomain=kernel.org); spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-132061-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 147.75.80.249 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="linux-kernel+bounces-132061-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org"; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: from smtp.subspace.kernel.org (wormhole.subspace.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by am.mirrors.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 511F31F2BA46 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 19:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7E8134CC2; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 19:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="eWYsq6cd" Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63F3412EBD0; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 19:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1712260421; cv=none; b=fft4hJC/Y5YkBjjaS0EW5uXH0+77rPB8X5AJEJmgy1/h3n11LzBJDtWx3W48Wmv7zXI1TfvfLB1iSc9sz3NUKU01Z2sWT5yqzdRpIFaKBP1yDVDgyglkOw60X0VNeHNqudXa4B07pzzQWfDOEJCrZleU/yrxIkd6OzJvAlatL1A= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1712260421; c=relaxed/simple; bh=0dykGMEIzzbTlo2r7m+D7cx0I5fgw0FXn+BBmF6bBqw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D5Q4O0QJzXz09noioYCw6Y2O6xt647rjydkI2jxKxpatHMat7z149NjSwBeuCxQz6eSptu2bktD3humaXZKv1aTxF2kh+ri1vsv5ENT6/zGOQbWzdv7fCg2vlsUp/jsp2xg5pWreF5nKPQ2xX9zMN7U6XHMsEtaG+61ozUsOtA8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=eWYsq6cd; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C218C433C7; Thu, 4 Apr 2024 19:53:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1712260421; bh=0dykGMEIzzbTlo2r7m+D7cx0I5fgw0FXn+BBmF6bBqw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=eWYsq6cdE8XB4cOK3AWiv8n3QZ7i+7Ni1D2SBgpPsoYmtOFo/K4li1lmayQOYqU6q yjJTyvuJ5jQ+QyIfywyVFnIBRMS+2hpTwxhuyw2AAJ/3mpZNLqL2kUWAup5M/JCwmW GfkQukIkoYzg/l4zheIQqzIDwvb4q8PN7bQqJN88/bfgTmNecNNjN7SXZhCyMnFJ33 yjOhjoRGqEACQJOfyDf19bxVqjG5HrBw/1ueT4Q3dgELG190YplzvA5VKJsQtEAcA4 10wMY21RPYKmLtjkHEZFB0RYx8AS3+FbXAtKQ+bhfIt/25Rh6alrkzNUvICWuTt81A Yr2fUEFzJTWug== Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 12:53:39 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Jason Gunthorpe Cc: Edward Cree , David Ahern , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Christoph Hellwig , Saeed Mahameed , Arnd Bergmann , Leon Romanovsky , Jiri Pirko , Leonid Bloch , Itay Avraham , Saeed Mahameed , Aron Silverton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , Andy Gospodarek Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver Message-ID: <20240404125339.14695f27@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <20240404183305.GM1723999@nvidia.com> References: <2024032248-ardently-ribcage-a495@gregkh> <510c1b6b-1738-4baa-bdba-54d478633598@kernel.org> <20240322135826.1c4655e2@kernel.org> <20240322154027.5555780a@kernel.org> <1cd2a70c-17b8-4421-b70b-3c0199a84a6a@kernel.org> <0ea32dd4-f408-5870-77eb-f18899f1ad44@gmail.com> <20240402184055.GP946323@nvidia.com> <83025203-fefb-d828-724d-259e5df7c1b2@gmail.com> <20240404183305.GM1723999@nvidia.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 15:33:05 -0300 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > Uh no, mlx5 already has an excellent in-tree driver, thank you very > much. The configuration is not changing the driver, it is changing the > device. > > Consider, I can ship unique devices pre-configured for each site's > special needs. They still work with the same inbox driver. > > In fact that happens already for certain large customers. It is why > Jakub recently pointed out that Meta doesn't need any > provisioning/mlx5ctl/misc driver. They just buy different devices than > everyone else. > Further it is really rude and inappropriate to say that some customers > should not be able to enjoy intree drivers because of your aesthetic > opinion of hacks in a device's design. To my knowledge the "customizations" are mostly around fitting into OCP servers. Those unfamiliar with how hyperscalers operate can mentally replace $hyperscaler with HP or Dell in your message. Minus all the proprietary OOB management stuff those guys also provide. > Overreach. The job of the kernel maintainer is to review the driver > software, not the device design. Agreed. I rarely if ever comment on what I think about device design. Discussion is about mlx5ctrl not "the device" as much as you'd like to equate the two.