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Subject: Re: [PATCH v0 00/14] Make I2C terminology more inclusive for I2C
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On 05/04/2024 12:18, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> Hello Easwar,
> 
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 05:00:24PM +0000, Easwar Hariharan wrote:
>> I2C v7, SMBus 3.2, and I3C specifications have replaced "master/slave"
>> with more appropriate terms. Inspired by and following on to Wolfram's
>> series to fix drivers/i2c/[1], fix the terminology for users of the
>> I2C_ALGOBIT bitbanging interface, now that the approved verbiage exists
>> in the specification.
> 
> I really appreciate that you want to assist in this task to improve the
> I2C core. I do. I am afraid, however, that you took the second step
> before the first one, though. As I mentioned in my original cover
> letter, this is not only about renaming but also improving the I2C API
> (splitting up header files...). So, drivers are not a priority right
> now. They can be better fixed once the core is ready.
> 
> It is true that I changed quite some controller drivers within the i2c
> realm. I did this to gain experience. As you also noticed quite some
> questions came up. We need to agree on answers first. And once we are
> happy with the answers we found, then IMO we can go outside of the i2c
> realm and send patches to other subsystems referencing agreed
> precedence. I intentionally did not go outside i2c yet. Since your
> patches are already there, you probably want to foster them until they
> are ready for inclusion. Yet, regarding further patches, my suggestion
> is to wait until the core is ready. That might take a while, though.
> However, there is enough to discuss until the core is ready. So, your
> collaboration there is highly appreciated!
> 
>> The last patch updating the .master_xfer method to .xfer depends on
>> patch 1 of Wolfram's series below, but the series is otherwise
>> independent. It may make sense for the last patch to go in with
> 
> Please drop the last patch from this series. It will nicely remove the
> dependency. Also, like above, I first want to gain experience with i2c
> before going to other subsystems. That was intended.

OK, based on this I'll mark the media patches in this series as 'Deferred'
in our patchwork.

Regards,

	Hans

> 
> All the best and happy hacking,
> 
>    Wolfram
>