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b=kAw7RbSv9BcBu6s7oRnasuRvyvN9sgglhE1xceLaBCStyIXPzVUEfEV1mN3h3GNnP pnS8SsZgOyt+cSOYYrcYdAKSkRHX1HD87wvo9F91Rsf2fQ/NSTATSyTNhXlk/SGq0B w321qbDUaYD6BdSycet+3dSY6ICKDwILgCTyOdZ8Wjinrk5/f9gaI/TLMFRAluTySB GKUlHGc+tW77Tnd+G5eOG+Egrt1cfv4buCTF7D/aA7EAYc9RgylsZSvls4p7sCObX9 XVtROmBWJ9sAlqheyJEsfJzkmxddRDvymDxOV/TdYTUwrszJ+3JjVj86yGoHs2P8sr B0Xej9WywdOWg== Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2601:280:5e00:625:67c:16ff:fe81:5f9b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08CCF47C3E; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:00:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Jonathan Corbet To: Thorsten Leemhuis Cc: regressions@lists.linux.dev, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 2/2] docs: reporting-issue: rework the TLDR In-Reply-To: <2f5a78745cbe0a99a4592612d6ffd57a17619fb4.1711455295.git.linux@leemhuis.info> References: <2f5a78745cbe0a99a4592612d6ffd57a17619fb4.1711455295.git.linux@leemhuis.info> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:00:03 -0600 Message-ID: <878r1lszl8.fsf@meer.lwn.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Thorsten Leemhuis writes: > Rework the TLDR (aka the short guide) for various reasons: > > * People had to read it entirely and then act upon what they learned, > which from feedback I got was apparently somewhat hard and confusing > given everything we expect from bug reporters; this partly was because > the first paragraph covered a special case (regression in > stable/longterm kernel) and not the main aspect most people cared > about when they came to the document. > > Use a step-by-step approach to avoid this. > > * Make use of > Documentation/admin-guide/verify-bugs-and-bisect-regressions.rst > > * The 'quickly report a stable regression to the stable team' approach > hardly worked out: most of the time the regression was not known yet. > Try a different approach using the regressions list. > > * Reports about stable/longterm regressions most of the time were > greeted with a brief reply along the lines of 'Is mainline affected as > well?'; this is needed to determine who is responsible, so it might as > well make the reporter check that before sending the report (which > verify-bugs-and-bisect-regressions.rst already tells them to do, too). > > Not-signed-off-by: Thorsten Leemhuis > --- > .../admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst | 104 +++++++++++------- > 1 file changed, 62 insertions(+), 42 deletions(-) From a quick read, no objections here. jon