Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:24:52 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:24:32 -0500 Received: from ns.ithnet.com ([217.64.64.10]:48399 "HELO heather.ithnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:24:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:24:09 +0100 From: Stephan von Krawczynski To: Andrea Arcangeli Cc: vanl@megsinet.net, andihartmann@freenet.de, riel@conectiva.com.br, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable Message-Id: <20020104152409.0fd8a101.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: <20020104151438.M1561@athlon.random> In-Reply-To: <3C2F04F6.7030700@athlon.maya.org> <3C309CDC.DEA9960A@megsinet.net> <20011231185350.1ca25281.skraw@ithnet.com> <3C351012.9B4D4D6@megsinet.net> <20020104151438.M1561@athlon.random> Organization: ith Kommunikationstechnik GmbH X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:14:38 +0100 Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 01:33:21PM +0100, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 20:14:42 -0600 > > "M.H.VanLeeuwen" wrote: > > > > And there is another difference here: > > > > + if (max_mapped <= 0 && nr_pages > 0) > > + swap_out(priority, gfp_mask, classzone); > > + > > > > It sounds reasonable _not_ to swap in case of success (nr_pages == 0). > > To me this looks pretty interesting. Is something like this already in -aa? > > This patch may be worth applying in 2.4. It is small and looks like the right> > thing to do. > > -aa swapout as soon as max_mapped hits zero. So it basically does it > internally (i.e. way more times) and so it will most certainly be able > to sustain an higher swap transfer rate. You can check with the mtest01 > -w test from ltp. Hm, but do you think this is really good in overall performance, especially the frequent cases where no swap should be needed _at all_ to do a successful shrinking? And - as can be viewed in Martins tests - if you have no swap at all, you seem to trigger OOM earlier through the short path exit in shrink, which is a obvious nono. I would state it wrong to fix the oom-killer for this case, because it should not be reached at all. ? Regards, Stephan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/