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Tue, 16 Apr 2024 12:18:10 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] ima: Fix detection of read/write violations on stacked filesystems From: Mimi Zohar To: Miklos Szeredi Cc: Stefan Berger , Amir Goldstein , linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, roberto.sassu@huawei.com, Christian Brauner Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 08:18:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <20240412140122.2607743-1-stefanb@linux.ibm.com> <20240412140122.2607743-3-stefanb@linux.ibm.com> <89b4fb29-5906-4b21-8b5b-6b340701ffe4@linux.ibm.com> <52645fb25b424e10e68f0bde3b80906bbf8b9a37.camel@linux.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-23.el8_9) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-Proofpoint-GUID: 8cJAq3Bt05s6SuYHWYznc5KtABd67TTP X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: FXyRC813uLMlb__JUepONO2KtIp5beHn X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.272,Aquarius:18.0.1011,Hydra:6.0.619,FMLib:17.11.176.26 definitions=2024-04-16_08,2024-04-16_01,2023-05-22_02 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 priorityscore=1501 phishscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 impostorscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2404010000 definitions=main-2404160076 On Tue, 2024-04-16 at 10:05 +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote: > On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 at 20:35, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > Although "Changes to the underlying filesystems while part of a mounted overlay > > filesystem are not allowed.", from an integrity perspective these changes might > > affect overlay files. So they need to be detected and possibly re-measured, re- > > appraised, and/or re-audited [1, 2]. > > How are changes of non-overlay files detected? Originally there was a single measureent unless the filesystem was mounted with SB_I_VERSION. With commit a2a2c3c8580a ("ima: Use i_version only when filesystem supports it") this changed to always re-measure the file if the filesystem wasn't mounted with SB_I_VERSION. With commit db1d1e8b9867 ("IMA: use vfs_getattr_nosec to get the i_version") it's not directly accessing i_version. thanks, Mimi