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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/12] dt-bindings: riscv: add Zc* extension rules
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To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
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On 19/04/2024 17:49, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 02:42:26PM +0200, Clément Léger wrote:
>> As stated by Zc* spec:
>>
>> "As C defines the same instructions as Zca, Zcf and Zcd, the rule is that:
>>  - C always implies Zca
>>  - C+F implies Zcf (RV32 only)
>>  - C+D implies Zcd"
>>
>> Add additionnal validation rules to enforce this in dts.
> 
> I'll get it out of the way: NAK, and the dts patch is the perfect
> example of why. I don't want us to have to continually update
> devicetrees. If these are implied due to being subsets of other
> extensions, then software should be able to enable them when that
> other extension is present.

Acked.

> 
> My fear is that, and a quick look at the "add probing" commit seemed to
> confirm it, new subsets would require updates to the dts, even though
> the existing extension is perfectly sufficient to determine presence.
> 
> I definitely want to avoid continual updates to the devicetree for churn
> reasons whenever subsets are added, but not turning on the likes of Zca
> when C is present because "the bindings were updated to enforce this"
> is a complete blocker. I do concede that having two parents makes that
> more difficult and will likely require some changes to how we probe - do
> we need to have a "second round" type thing?

Yeah, I understand. At first, I actually did the modifications in the
ISA probing loop with some dependency probing (ie loop while we don't
have a stable extension state). But I thought that it was not actually
our problem but rather the ISA string provider. For instance, Qemu
provides them.


> Taking Zcf as an example, maybe something like making both of C and F into
> "standard" supersets and adding a case to riscv_isa_extension_check()
> that would mandate that Zca and F are enabled before enabling it, and we
> would ensure that C implies Zca before it implies Zcf?

I'm afraid that riscv_isa_extension_check() will become a rat nest so
rather than going that way, I would be in favor of adding a validation
callback for the extensions if needed.

> 
> Given we'd be relying on ordering, we have to perform the same implication
> for both F and C and make sure that the "implies" struct has Zca before Zcf.
> I don't really like that suggestion, hopefully there's a nicer way of doing
> that, but I don't like the dt stuff here.

I guess the "cleanest" way would be to have some "defered-like"
mechanism in ISA probing which would allow to handle ordering as well as
dependencies/implies for extensions. For Zca, Zcf, we actually do not
have ordering problems but I think it would be a bit broken not to
support that as well.

I can actually revive the work mentioned above to handle that and see if
it works ok.

Clément

> 
> Thanks,
> Conor.
> 
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Clément Léger <cleger@rivosinc.com>
>> ---
>>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  8 +++--
>>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 34 +++++++++++++++++++
>>  2 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> index d87dd50f1a4b..c4e2c65437b1 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> @@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ examples:
>>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
>>                  reg = <0>;
>>                  riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> -                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
>> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c", "zca";
>>  
>>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
>>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>> @@ -194,7 +194,8 @@ examples:
>>                  reg = <1>;
>>                  tlb-split;
>>                  riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> -                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c", "zca",
>> +                                       "zcd";
>>  
>>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
>>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>> @@ -215,7 +216,8 @@ examples:
>>                  compatible = "riscv";
>>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
>>                  riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> -                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c", "zca",
>> +                                       "zcd";
>>  
>>                  interrupt-controller {
>>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> index db7daf22b863..0172cbaa13ca 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> @@ -549,6 +549,23 @@ properties:
>>                  const: zca
>>              - contains:
>>                  const: f
>> +      # C extension implies Zca
>> +      - if:
>> +          contains:
>> +            const: c
>> +        then:
>> +          contains:
>> +            const: zca
>> +      # C extension implies Zcd if d
>> +      - if:
>> +          allOf:
>> +            - contains:
>> +                const: c
>> +            - contains:
>> +                const: d
>> +        then:
>> +          contains:
>> +            const: zcd
>>  
>>  allOf:
>>    # Zcf extension does not exists on rv64
>> @@ -566,6 +583,23 @@ allOf:
>>            not:
>>              contains:
>>                const: zcf
>> +  # C extension implies Zcf if f on rv32 only
>> +  - if:
>> +      properties:
>> +        riscv,isa-extensions:
>> +          allOf:
>> +            - contains:
>> +                const: c
>> +            - contains:
>> +                const: f
>> +        riscv,isa-base:
>> +          contains:
>> +            const: rv32i
>> +    then:
>> +      properties:
>> +        riscv,isa-extensions:
>> +          contains:
>> +            const: zcf
>>  
>>  additionalProperties: true
>>  ...
>> -- 
>> 2.43.0
>>