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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:15:50 +0100
From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>
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Em Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:04:01 +0200
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> escreveu:

> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 10:46:37PM +0100, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:25:18 -0400
> > Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> escreveu:
> >   
> > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 05:49:29PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:  
> > > > @Greg, BTW: should this be stable+noautosel@kernel.org or have a 
> > > > 'vger.'    
> > > 
> > > No vger, just stable+whatever@kernel.org.
> > >   
> > > > in it, e.g. stable+noautosel@vger.kernel.org? I assume without 'vger.'
> > > > is fine, just wanted to be sure, as
> > > > Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst in all other cases
> > > > specifies stable@vger.kernel.org, so people are likely to get confused.
> > > > :-/ #sigh    
> > > 
> > > These serve two different purposes:
> > > 
> > > stable@kernel.org (goes into devnull)
> > > stable@vger.kernel.org (actual mailing list)
> > > 
> > > Confusion happens all the time, unfortunately.  
> > 
> > Yeah, I did already used stable@kernel.org a few times in the
> > past. 
> > 
> > IMO, the best would be either for stable to also accept it or for
> > kernel.org mail server to return an error message (only to the
> > submitter) warning about the invalid address, eventually with a
> > hint message pointing to the correct value.  
> 
> stable@kernel.org is there to route to /dev/null on purpose so that
> developers/maintainers who only want their patches to get picked up when
> they hit Linus's tree, will have happen and not notify anyone else.
> This is especially good when dealing with security-related things as we
> have had MANY people accidentally leak patches way too early by having
>  cc: stable@vger.kernel.org in their signed-off-by areas, and forgetting
> to tell git send-email to suppress cc: when sending them out for
> internal review.

Nice! didn't know about that. On a quick check, the only place at
documentation mentioning it without vger is at checkpatch.rst.

Perhaps it would make sense to document that as well.

> Having that bounce would just be noisy for the developers involved.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h