Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757977AbYAZAl5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:41:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752490AbYAZAlt (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:41:49 -0500 Received: from dallas.jonmasters.org ([72.29.103.172]:52232 "EHLO dallas.jonmasters.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752131AbYAZAls (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:41:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] driver core patches against 2.6.24 From: Jon Masters To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Ingo Molnar , Jeremy Fitzhardinge , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1201307242.27573.13.camel@lappy> References: <20080125071127.GA4860@kroah.com> <20080125185213.GA23475@suse.de> <479A3ED3.6020808@goop.org> <1201296027.32422.80.camel@perihelion> <479A5B72.6080701@goop.org> <1201299979.27573.11.camel@lappy> <20080126000526.GA24559@elte.hu> <1201307242.27573.13.camel@lappy> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: World Organi[sz]ation Of Broken Dreams Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:40:53 -0500 Message-Id: <1201308053.32422.92.camel@perihelion> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 (2.12.2-2.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Do-Not-Run: Yes X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 74.92.29.237 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jonathan@jonmasters.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on dallas.jonmasters.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1688 Lines: 41 On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 01:27 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 01:05 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > > My wish is that distros would just boot without requiring an initrd. I > > > know how to make them for redhat and debian based distros, but the > > > fact that you can't (easily) cross-build them makes it a very tedious > > > construct. > > > > all it takes for me on Fedora is to boot a modular distro kernel once, > > then copy the /dev to the real (persistent) /dev: > > > > mkdir /tmp2 > > mount /dev/sda1 /tmp2 > > cp -a /dev/* /tmp2/dev/ > > > > and from that point on a bzImage/vmlinuz can boot up on Fedora without > > any problems (as long as it has the right drivers built in), and the > > initrd line can be removed from grub.conf. > > Yeah, I usually do the same but with a bind mount, still it would be > grand if such things would not be needed. Agreed. But it's not likely to be a priority - all the vendors want completely modular kernels. But now we see what Linus wants to do, perhaps we can try to be a bit more friendly toward that. It's not actually rocket science, after all. I was concerned that he wanted to use the modules in the initrd, but now I see Linus, and everyone else, just want to do what I also secretly do, and just not use an initrd. Isn't it funny. We all secretly hate using initrds ourselves :) Jon. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/