Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757076AbYAZF2Y (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:28:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751982AbYAZF17 (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:27:59 -0500 Received: from [212.12.190.175] ([212.12.190.175]:60667 "EHLO raad.intranet" rhost-flags-FAIL-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751049AbYAZF16 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:27:58 -0500 From: Al Boldi To: Diego Calleja Subject: Re: [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:27:43 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara References: <200801242336.00340.a1426z@gawab.com> <20080124225026.55fc6c20.diegocg@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20080124225026.55fc6c20.diegocg@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Message-Id: <200801260827.43284.a1426z@gawab.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1810 Lines: 45 Diego Calleja wrote: > El Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:36:00 +0300, Al Boldi escribi?: > > Greetings! > > > > data=ordered mode has proven reliable over the years, and it does this > > by ordering filedata flushes before metadata flushes. But this > > sometimes causes contention in the order of a 10x slowdown for certain > > apps, either due to the misuse of fsync or due to inherent behaviour > > like db's, as well as inherent starvation issues exposed by the > > data=ordered mode. > > There's a related bug in bugzilla: > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9546 > > The diagnostic from Jan Kara is different though, but I think it may be > the same problem... > > "One process does data-intensive load. Thus in the ordered mode the > transaction is tiny but has tons of data buffers attached. If commit > happens, it takes a long time to sync all the data before the commit > can proceed... In the writeback mode, we don't wait for data buffers, in > the journal mode amount of data to be written is really limited by the > maximum size of a transaction and so we write by much smaller chunks > and better latency is thus ensured." > > > I'm hitting this bug too...it's surprising that there's not many people > reporting more bugs about this, because it's really annoying. > > > There's a patch by Jan Kara (that I'm including here because bugzilla > didn't include it and took me a while to find it) which I don't know if > it's supposed to fix the problem , but it'd be interesting to try: Thanks a lot, but it doesn't fix it. -- Al -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/