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[139.178.88.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h12-20020a17090aa88c00b002ac87891004si7399544pjq.34.2024.04.23.08.14.03 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-155433-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 139.178.88.99 as permitted sender) client-ip=139.178.88.99; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.s=korg header.b=ZT+9JKG2; arc=pass (i=1 dkim=pass dkdomain=linuxfoundation.org); spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-155433-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 139.178.88.99 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="linux-kernel+bounces-155433-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org"; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Received: from smtp.subspace.kernel.org (wormhole.subspace.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sv.mirrors.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC091286DAB for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E22913BC29; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="ZT+9JKG2" Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6019213BADD; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1713885227; cv=none; b=mRbA9r88e2xQPqwW6yMoBXBQ8Pad8g1h66eavp5LTKVPBS771dWxugTos73seLYszbQ4R8Ca5zsS4iHhEEBGZNdQnx9Pk90hEm6sOCqzyyNZWFCA9kdqgJ3ETCvqBSMsjpZcdKTdy7iVM6QCOQun4ZJq4fF/8T6Ix7nBjDOzDQ0= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1713885227; c=relaxed/simple; bh=RJ4ooxxQshso5u8umOVzklJnomOaOetIWXrHfhND/pE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=ihrRQkbNgxtkAsxAAPBQfwBdWJ+AWoPpSM8U9n/Vhfa9hTwIp5sIFFWvRw6T88P0PIM3yUptI1u7WjNKQDAPsHFX7yM3DRGmMgwjoVEiGe142X5oo7TPXfWbpVEmi/cmYv9RBnOcbl3otKDJxC9RINH0UwgqbsuCcEgFwZPRTMg= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=ZT+9JKG2; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFF20C116B1; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:13:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1713885226; bh=RJ4ooxxQshso5u8umOVzklJnomOaOetIWXrHfhND/pE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZT+9JKG2F+e3PRY/IMhM4veegw94Uo32VvswK4aOm9OH6/f+GFt32ky8EYBw7QpQE FqqS5gkq2QJJSxWdC45C0LkCkjg7pQ9yiGWug73McnZaZ2L+Er3R7W/PwMtuGEJgHV 13fSNzHKBBpZ/kOfRdAivn44UedZ4mcgXLdigHvQ= Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:13:37 -0700 From: Greg KH To: Andy Shevchenko Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] Documentation: process: Recommend to put Cc: tags after cutter '---' line Message-ID: <2024042347-ellipse-overeater-9aff@gregkh> References: <20240423132024.2368662-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <20240423132024.2368662-3-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240423132024.2368662-3-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 04:19:38PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > The recommendation is based on the following rationale: > > - it makes the commit messages much cleaner and easy to read, especially > on the screens of the mobile devices; Reading commits on a mobile device is not what kernel development is optimized for, sorry. > - it reduces resources (memory, time, energy) to retrieve all these > headers, which are barely needed by a mere user, as for automation > they will be still available via mail archives, such as > https://lore.kernel.org, assuming the Link: or Message-ID tag is > provided. > > Let's be environment friendly and save the planet! > > Signed-off-by: Andy Shevchenko > --- > Documentation/process/5.Posting.rst | 4 ++++ > Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 5 +++++ > 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+) This breaks my existing workflow, sorry. I can't track cc: below the --- line because obviously, git cuts that off. So I put them above where git send-email can see them, AND where git can handle them when I rebase/revise/etc. Also, as Jon points out, the "environmental" argument seems very odd, it's not like bits cost more to send around (they keep getting cheaper in power and money), and processing power is pretty constant for servers handling email, so I don't understand the power consumption argument. Without some sort of data to back that up, I'd be loath to repeat it. thanks, greg k-h