Received: by 2002:ab2:6203:0:b0:1f5:f2ab:c469 with SMTP id o3csp3054160lqt; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:08:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=3; AJvYcCV+MwFY8VlbCmzjM/PIFEwd/LQ3qj9ma1DKHuRWskHcgGa+ejW79pomgdTP5ruj88o57tQ8d70DUugXIKJlRNngmLPGf2wBVKMQ517zzg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH9F0IjDI3j43OTuk9eotKowavQMFlQHO/UWDsB5qpKy3/xlxAdx1SD1es5q/aDw8DUz5iC X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:1aa1:b0:439:f851:4a10 with SMTP id s33-20020a05622a1aa100b00439f8514a10mr3618789qtc.28.1713888508715; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:08:28 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; t=1713888508; cv=pass; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=1Lh+Qsr1qVo5LJAH5GZ3ErU82eWEiXCqkpLHG+V8NrtKgMOno0M6TL8hd7tmZwwSbH ufckvHQWO2nwkHlngAqJ29JZsMmQuDWPWPPhWnGA4gChht8zGAIJ14F62FbqyINexOOV x864SJt9920KgxXn5/UDuD6nzURNlF76M0cjMVkK3xFGTRanCd7PRYsR8/pDTap/+4/Y Lwgu4oVH68lwfFl9ApQ37kEto+8c1ygi4+oasghb2Af3FKgtFAPa5vVx6d7ClK/dG5jm nZ5U57SZ3BkUDaW2EIwBHNyZuJtNXlClgxzy1ZjibOx8dAzgRCos7jYyRQldxq64dCIv zUlg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:list-unsubscribe :list-subscribe:list-id:precedence:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:dkim-signature; bh=/gHcA1/Qchj+MIvR+Zo5q7F7gVTILkqlJcO7/NNRme0=; fh=p4vhgGoDF3bqbLLOc4Rw2NlOgyyu47WlKFsNi2MRn4A=; b=XTxfINJdchrFaqA2zeYf77aIEKCOUjOZS6ssaQouuRC428CLTYHSAPmCuxKwOIhHep sWv6vF4gnfX/fJeQsnxlkVRMiPJBN082mgoL0wYjy1Tr1nkacjfB5LRKe6XpLiiYSPnH wrCmcAbgfLyMXWmwE0uMM6lqPNlit3nuGRhxUeqMn1CQwoQRoYJ6EinoX83sSJJjBa9g 4WkQbzt3FHccBohJ5zMicjqyzM07St9JgvTObhqsq9U94HyNpVhV3Ce1YVg/ydrr5vkk Y+wYCDvMNTqE/rxVXH4qwhGR9+XNrPKHE7ihVy9aGG4N9A+RBgoPRIvk58B/0Ne1YDMa lYZg==; dara=google.com ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.s=korg header.b=dvPB2hPk; arc=pass (i=1 dkim=pass dkdomain=linuxfoundation.org); spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-155521-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 2604:1380:45d1:ec00::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="linux-kernel+bounces-155521-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org"; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Return-Path: Received: from ny.mirrors.kernel.org (ny.mirrors.kernel.org. [2604:1380:45d1:ec00::1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10-20020ac8590a000000b0043697289955si13158798qty.354.2024.04.23.09.08.28 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-155521-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 2604:1380:45d1:ec00::1 as permitted sender) client-ip=2604:1380:45d1:ec00::1; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.s=korg header.b=dvPB2hPk; arc=pass (i=1 dkim=pass dkdomain=linuxfoundation.org); spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-155521-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 2604:1380:45d1:ec00::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="linux-kernel+bounces-155521-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org"; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Received: from smtp.subspace.kernel.org (wormhole.subspace.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ny.mirrors.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A89F1C236A9 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E256613CFA1; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="dvPB2hPk" Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3AF113CA89; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1713888440; cv=none; b=Oe/XumGzoIPwsPRiyRWCfHfJu6Yh/W77aE+8Vor96WBzqXzOb6J2O/V6B2XrmujaSjVyinLB6HKdEzu+FG8vy7s9xplBmNsJmP3V52RCz7lghAXIhA15KogiBhoEaIOA1d+ns5H3zJwrjxkETNsGYImPmXCOZeFaBFVUVRdDZUw= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1713888440; c=relaxed/simple; bh=8iQx8KlYOrmnV0TdoWdZZ7Rb29HLI1k+ibkPNJAowQ0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=HyCUkBocw2WUsVJcaA6mYxSZgCpG18dEGu97Ytr8Hbw2/YmoIp1rVOrr7zizBH70p0Il506fT0atCkCshQh1/4MtB61yAqMUVYlk4ptfwSySjwdY+2EpWh9q75HoTPlaECGXJCM9Gv1BK14ilUx9W5EJUc2sGaHmetXfrV8kDVw= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=dvPB2hPk; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 601B0C116B1; Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:07:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1713888439; bh=8iQx8KlYOrmnV0TdoWdZZ7Rb29HLI1k+ibkPNJAowQ0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=dvPB2hPkh/CwerF2ivKtVNxZeNZ/bJ8VPVyp7VIrFyY529DnH2JTzjR2SdtQAWl+b fKfBhnMCB+mLtxbCkZJqqhxYYIR261/Sdbsic6DrUmHwCBauU4lPmlv94YqzMK6+mw taITJ4k/p2WCEMQ6e/zmlulGekRjRkoWDwgcIzp0= Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:07:09 -0700 From: Greg KH To: Andy Shevchenko Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] Documentation: process: Recommend to put Cc: tags after cutter '---' line Message-ID: <2024042317-wolf-condition-dd5f@gregkh> References: <20240423132024.2368662-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <20240423132024.2368662-3-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <2024042347-ellipse-overeater-9aff@gregkh> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 06:28:44PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 08:13:37AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 04:19:38PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > The recommendation is based on the following rationale: > > > > > > - it makes the commit messages much cleaner and easy to read, especially > > > on the screens of the mobile devices; > > > > Reading commits on a mobile device is not what kernel development is > > optimized for, sorry. > > The commit messages not always for the kernel development, some people may read > them in order to understand code better or many other reasons. I.o.w. it's not > the point. > > > > - it reduces resources (memory, time, energy) to retrieve all these > > > headers, which are barely needed by a mere user, as for automation > > > they will be still available via mail archives, such as > > > https://lore.kernel.org, assuming the Link: or Message-ID tag is > > > provided. > > > > > > Let's be environment friendly and save the planet! > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Andy Shevchenko > > > --- > > > Documentation/process/5.Posting.rst | 4 ++++ > > > Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 5 +++++ > > > 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+) > > > > This breaks my existing workflow, sorry. I can't track cc: below the > > --- line because obviously, git cuts that off. So I put them above > > where git send-email can see them, > > git send-email _sees_ them very well there. Sorry, yes, but git itself can't track them in the commit when I rebase/squash/redo/etc. That's the point I was trying to make before my coffee kicked in... thanks, greg k-h