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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:57:32 +0100 (CET)
From: Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>
To: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
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Subject: Re: ISA slot detection on PCI systems?
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On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Eric S. Raymond wrote:

> Are there even 1500 distinct PC motherboard designs in *existence*? :-)
> Think, Dave.  The DMI standard dates from 1998.  For there to be 1500
> entries on the blacklist, someone would have to have been cranking out
> *500* PCI-capable, DMI-supporting motherboard designs a year each and
> every one of which lies about having ISA slots.

-  Laptops. Lots of vendors, multiple product lines.
-  prebuilt systems with custom boards from Dell/Compaq.
-  The obvious motherboard vendors (ABit, Asus, Tyan, Soyo etc etc)
-  Vendor reference boards from AMD, VIA, SiS, ALi etc etc.
-  The seemingly endless cheap no-name boards from Taiwan.
-  Mulitple versions of BIOSen for all the above.
   Some with good DMI/some bad/some bad for different reasons etc.

Still think that '150' systems sounds right ?
Dell alone have probably achieved that in their product line over
the last three years.

And whilst DMI is a dying standard, its still present in a lot of
new boxes, and will probably still continue to for some for a while.

-- 
| Dave Jones.        http://www.codemonkey.org.uk
| SuSE Labs

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