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Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/fault: speed up uffd-unit-test by 10x: rate-limit
 "MCE: Killing" logs
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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On 07.05.24 18:28, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 5/7/24 1:13 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> The patch subject is misleading. This should be "don't flood the system
> 
> I went back and forth on that subject line. :)
> 
>> log". Nobody cares about the speed of a unittest ;)
> 
> Yes they do. People should actually run the selftests, which in turn have
> enshrined their guidelines in kernel doc. See dev-tools/kselftest.rst,
> "Contributing new tests", which says, as you would hope, "Don't take
> too long".
> 
> It's important. Tests need to be quick, and having one out of 50 that
> blows it up is worth fixing.

I'm pretty sure you got my point: it's much more important to not let 
unprivileged users flood the log (possibly harming the system?) than 
making a test run faster :)

> 
>>
>> On 07.05.24 04:29, John Hubbard wrote:
>>> If a system experiences a lot of memory failures, then any associated
>>> printk() output really needs to be rate-limited. I noticed this while
>>> running selftests/mm/uffd-unit-tests, which logs 12,305 lines of output,
>>> adding (on my system) an extra 97 seconds of runtime due to printk time.
>>
>> Recently discussed:
>>
>> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/a9e3120d-8b79-4435-b113-ceb20aa45ee2@alu.unizg.hr
>>
>> See the pros/cons of using ratelimiting, and what an alternative for
>> uffd is that Axel is working on.
>>
>> (CCing Peter and Axel)
>>
> 
> That thread seems to have stalled.

Yes, there was no follow-up.

> I *do* have MCE experience (writing a
> handler,
> dealing with MCEs and related bugs), and what they wrote so far is exactly
> correct: if you were going to flood the log, then no, we don't need to see
> every single line printed. The first 10 or so, plus the fact that rate
> limiting
> kicked in, is sufficient to proceed with debugging and/or hardware
> replacement.
> 
> I'd like to just do this patch almost as-is, just with a fixed up subject,
> perhaps:
> 
>       x86/fault: rate-limit to avoid flooding dmesg with "MCE: Killing"
> reports
> 
> Yes?


Makes sense to me (and thanks for confirming that we don't need 
complexity elsewhere).

I think we at least need "Fixes:" (not sure if stable is warranted as 
well, 1b0a151c10a6d823f033023b9fdd9af72a89591b didn't CC stable).

Consider adding a link to the report in that thread.

Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb