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Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 17:26:54 +0300
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From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
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Cc: <keyrings@vger.kernel.org>, "Peter Huewe" <peterhuewe@gmx.de>, "Jason
 Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>, "Mimi Zohar" <zohar@linux.ibm.com>, "David
 Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>, "Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>, "James
 Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>, "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
 <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: enable HMAC encryption for only x86-64 and aarch64
References: <20240521130921.15028-1-jarkko@kernel.org>
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In-Reply-To: <854fa2e1634eb116b979dab499243e40917c637c.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Tue May 21, 2024 at 5:13 PM EEST, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-05-21 at 17:02 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > Secondly, it also roots to the null key if a parent is not given. So
> > it covers all the basic features of the HMAC patch set.
>
> I don't think that can work.  The key file would be wrapped to the
> parent and the null seed (and hence the wrapping) changes with every
> reboot.  If you want a permanent key, it has to be in one of the
> accessible permanent hierarchies (storage ideally or endorsement).

I'm fully aware that null seed is randomized per power cycle.

The fallback was inherited from James Prestwood's original code and I
decided to keep it as a testing feature, and also to test HMAC changes.

If you look at the testing transcript in the cover letter, it should be
obvious that a primary key is created in my basic test.

BR, Jarkko