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Rozycki" To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz cc: Linus Torvalds , Arnd Bergmann , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linux-Arch , linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , Alexander Viro , "Paul E. McKenney" Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] alpha: cleanups and build fixes for 6.10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <71feb004-82ef-4c7b-9e21-0264607e4b20@app.fastmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 May 2024, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Well, despite the discussion about timing of this, I have pulled this. > > I still have a fond spot for alpha, even if it has the worst memory > > ordering ever devised, but the lack of byte operations was an > > inexcusable "we can deal with that in the compiler" senior moment in > > the design. So good riddance. > > As someone who spends a lot of personal time and energy and even money into > Linux, I have to say the way this change was steamrolled into the kernel > without any real discussion actually hurts. > > It's days like these when I'm starting to question my efforts. FWIW, me too (the other factor being recurring PSU failures). Sigh... Maciej