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Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] mm/ksm: skip subpages of compound pages
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On 05.06.24 23:12, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 09:47:10AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 05.06.24 08:14, Alex Shi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/5/24 11:52 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 12:24:44PM +0800, alexs@kernel.org wrote:
>>>>> From: "Alex Shi (tencent)" <alexs@kernel.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> When a folio isn't fit for KSM, the subpages are unlikely to be good,
>>>>> So let's skip the rest page checking to save some actions.
>>>>
>>>> Why would you say that is true?  We have plenty of evidence that
>>>> userspace allocators can allocate large folios, then use only the first
>>>> few bytes, leaving many tail pages full of zeroes.
>>>
>>> Um, that do need tail pages...
>>> Is there some way to use more folio in ksm?
>>
>> My take, and Willy can correct me if I am wrong:
>>
>> "struct page" is not going to away any time soon, but it might shrink at
>> some point.
>>
>> That is, we can use the "struct page" pointer to point at a page frame, and
>> use "struct folio" to lookup/manage the metadata.
> 
> Right.
> 
>> That is, use "struct page" when accessing the actual memory content
>> (checksum, testing for identical content), but use the folio part when
>> looking up metadata (folio_test_anon() etc). In the future we might want to
>> replace the "struct page" pointer by an index into the folio, but that
>> doesn't have to happen right now.
> 
> My current thinking is that folio->pfn is how we know where the memory
> described by the folio is.  Using an index would be memmap[folio->pfn +
> index] which isn't terribly expensive, but we may as well pass around the
> (folio, page) pair and save the reference to memmap.

Right, as soon as the folio does not overlay the head page it's going to 
be a bit different.

A (folio,page) pair, like we use in the RMAP code, is likely the best 
option for now and gives us sufficient flexibility for the future design.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb