Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:55:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:55:04 -0500 Received: from vasquez.zip.com.au ([203.12.97.41]:41480 "EHLO vasquez.zip.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:54:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3C39611A.F5C9BD3@zip.com.au> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:49:30 -0800 From: Andrew Morton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.17-pre8 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Paukstadt CC: Matti Aarnio , Linux-Kernel , linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.4.17 RAID-1 EXT3 reliable to hang.... In-Reply-To: <3C395A2C.B7A24844@zip.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Oliver Paukstadt wrote: > > Heavy traffic on ext3 seems to cause short system freezes. This could be due to disk request elevator latency and VM imbalance. Your application has a page dropped due to the competing write activity, and it takes ages to be restored, due to the write activity. > Seems only to happen on 2 or more processor boxes. In which case the above theory is wrong. > I'm not deep into kernel nor ext3, but how is the journal flushed if > full? Nothing special, really - we just pump a stream of data out to disk. While this is happening, other processes can still attach data to the journal without getting blocked. Up to a point. Our handling of this is a bit sudden at present. Some people have reported benefit from radically decreasing the buffer flushtimes. See Daniel Robbins' article at http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fs8/ for this. Yes, improvements are needed in this area. Not only in ext3. You haven't really defined "freeze", but it's certainly different from Matti's freeze. - - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/