Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758775AbYBMKSY (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:18:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753427AbYBMKSM (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:18:12 -0500 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([78.32.30.218]:58431 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753089AbYBMKSL (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:18:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:07:01 +0000 From: Russell King To: Alan Cox Cc: Al Viro , Linus Torvalds , James Bottomley , Jeff Garzik , David Miller , arjan@infradead.org, greg@kroah.com, sfr@canb.auug.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) Message-ID: <20080213100700.GB21694@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Alan Cox , Al Viro , Linus Torvalds , James Bottomley , Jeff Garzik , David Miller , arjan@infradead.org, greg@kroah.com, sfr@canb.auug.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org References: <20080211.221126.230471463.davem@davemloft.net> <47B1CB08.4020101@garzik.org> <1202838082.3137.54.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1202840682.3137.83.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080212194100.GH27894@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20080212215152.1470fe7f@core> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080212215152.1470fe7f@core> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 992 Lines: 23 On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:51:52PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > We could simply decide that API changes affecting more than one subsystem > > Must Be Serialized(tm). Explicitly. As in "any such change is posted > > Welcome to dreamland. The only way I can get serial changes done is to > wait months and eventually simply persuade Andrew to ignore the > "maintainers" who are basically not responding. ... because we didn't realise that the pre-requisits for those patches had already gone in. If that had been the case, I'd have applied the ARM changes for the new tty ioctls immediately. It was a communication problem, not a process problem. -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/