Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933051AbYBMRNr (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:13:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1760646AbYBMRNa (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:13:30 -0500 Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl ([195.241.79.177]:51596 "EHLO smtp-out2.tiscali.nl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932444AbYBMRN2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:13:28 -0500 Message-ID: <47B32510.20200@tiscali.nl> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:12:48 +0100 From: Roel Kluin <12o3l@tiscali.nl> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Greg KH , Jeff Garzik , David Miller , arjan@infradead.org, sfr@canb.auug.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) References: <20080211203146.3d28d1a0@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20080212044314.GA4888@kroah.com> <20080211211751.3e265754@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20080211.221126.230471463.davem@davemloft.net> <47B1CB08.4020101@garzik.org> <20080212174824.GA1919@kroah.com> <20080212191552.GA20883@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2633 Lines: 54 Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Greg KH wrote: >>> That's the point. >> Not it isn't. To quote you a number of years ago: >> "Linux is evolution, not intelligent design" > > Umm. Have you read a lot of books on evolution? > > It doesn't sound like you have. > > The fact is, evolution often does odd (and "suboptimal") things exactly > because it does incremental changes that DO NOT BREAK at any point. This is not entirely true if the pressure for changes are removed. For instance in mammals the bones in the ear are what used to be gills in fish. When fish became amphibians the gills weren't needed as much and evolution took a side path. > The examples are legion. The mammalian eye has the retina "backwards", > with the blind spot appearing because the fundmanetal infrastructure (the > optical nerves) actually being in *front* of the light sensor and needing > a hole in the retina to get the information (and blood flow) to go to the > brain! > > In other words, exactly *because* evolution requires "bisectability" (any > non-viable point in between is a dead end by definition) and does things > incrementally, it doesn't do big flips. It fixes the problems on an > incremental scale both when it comes to the details and when it comes to > both "details" (actual protein-coding genes that code directly for some > expression) and "infrastructure" (homeobox and non-coding genes). In nature there is a lot of duplication: several copies of genes can exist and different copies may have a distinct evolution. There is also a lot of 'junk' DNA that doesn't code for anything (although it may have regulating functions). In there some copies of genes may remain that are inactivated, as well as parts of virusses, slowly obtaining random mutations because there is no pressure on the evolution of them. Some may eventually become active again and have different functions. The duplication also often ensures there is fallback when random mutations are acquired and a protein is knocked out. Besides the two chromosomes several proteins also can have overlapping functions. The result is more like a balance. Evolution in nature and changes in code are different because in code junk and bugs are constantly removed. In biology junk is allowed and may provide a pool for future development. Linux development is intended and not survival. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/