Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763122AbYBMW4i (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:56:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1761942AbYBMW4A (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:56:00 -0500 Received: from smtp6.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.153.40]:59436 "EHLO smtp6.pp.htv.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753001AbYBMWz7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:55:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:55:43 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Harvey Harrison Cc: Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , David Miller , Thomas Gleixner , "H. Peter Anvin" , Pavel Emelyanov , LKML Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] feature-removal: add documentation for exported symbols going away Message-ID: <20080213225543.GE12383@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> References: <1202941327.18204.11.camel@brick> <20080213223455.GB12383@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <1202942550.18204.18.camel@brick> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1202942550.18204.18.camel@brick> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2060 Lines: 64 On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 02:42:30PM -0800, Harvey Harrison wrote: > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 00:34 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 02:22:06PM -0800, Harvey Harrison wrote: > > > + > > > +What: __inet_hash_connect > > > +Where: net/ipv4/inet_hashtables.c > > > +When: 2.6.28 > > > +Why: No in tree users > > > + > > > +--------------------------- > > > + > > > +What: io_delay_type > > > +Where: arch/x86/kernel/io_delay.c > > > +When: 2.6.28 > > > +Why: No in tree users > > > + > > > +--------------------------- > > >... > > > > NAK. > > > > It's a well-known and documented fact that we not have a stable API for > > modules. > > > > And as long as we anyway break the modules API in so many other cases > > with each kernel release there's simply no point in not removing exports > > immediately. > > > > Oh, and for increasing the amount of nonsense even further, you should > > explain why unused exports that just sneaked into 2.6.25-rc1 must be > > shipped in 4 stable kernels before they can be removed. > > Without comment on the validity of the exports themselves, I was more > interested in the principle of announcing these removals, and if it > was wanted. Sorry again for being too harsh (see my other email). Every kernel release has a big amount of API changes that have not been announced previously, and that's a fact that is rooted in the kernel development model. Otherwise everyone also had to announce now if he wanted to e.g. change a function prototype or a struct in 2.6.28. > Cheers, > > Harvey cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/