Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1764255AbYBMXXT (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:23:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755647AbYBMXXH (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:23:07 -0500 Received: from smtp5.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.153.39]:52385 "EHLO smtp5.pp.htv.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754984AbYBMXXE (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:23:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:22:48 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Andrew Morton Cc: harvey.harrison@gmail.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, davem@davemloft.net, tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@zytor.com, xemul@openvz.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] feature-removal: add documentation for exported symbols going away Message-ID: <20080213232248.GF12383@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> References: <1202941327.18204.11.camel@brick> <20080213223455.GB12383@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080213224308.GD12383@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080213145405.35fb5733.akpm@linux-foundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080213145405.35fb5733.akpm@linux-foundation.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1431 Lines: 38 On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 02:54:05PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:43:08 +0200 > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > There's simply no point in treating the removal of exports differently > > from the many other API breaks we have in each release. > > I have repeatedly and relatively patiently explained to you what the > point is. Simply saying that there isn't one doesn't actually make > it go away. Yes, we had this when you insisted on the deprecation period for sys_open which still brings me to explosion each time such topics come up and brought you _very_ near at being the first person ever in my killfile. I don't get your point why bigger API changes should still be allowed without any advance warning while removing an export should require deprecation periods. If you want to offer a stable API for external modules then please do it completely and with all consequences. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/