Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:56:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:56:18 -0500 Received: from dsl-213-023-038-231.arcor-ip.net ([213.23.38.231]:58890 "EHLO starship.berlin") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:56:04 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Daniel Phillips To: Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 21:59:19 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: Anton Blanchard , Andrea Arcangeli , Luigi Genoni , Dieter N?tzel , Marcelo Tosatti , Rik van Riel , Linux Kernel List , Robert Love In-Reply-To: <20020108030420Z287595-13997+1799@vger.kernel.org> <3C3B4CB7.FEAAF5FC@zip.com.au> In-Reply-To: <3C3B4CB7.FEAAF5FC@zip.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On January 8, 2002 08:47 pm, Andrew Morton wrote: > Daniel Phillips wrote: > > What a preemptible kernel can do that a non-preemptible kernel can't is: > > reschedule exactly as often as necessary, instead of having lots of extra > > schedule points inserted all over the place, firing when *they* think the > > time is right, which may well be earlier than necessary. > > Nope. `if (current->need_resched)' -> the time is right (beyond right, > actually). Oops, sorry, right. The preemptible kernel can reschedule, on average, sooner than the scheduling-point kernel, which has to wait for a scheduling point to roll around. And while I'm enumerating differences, the preemptable kernel (in this incarnation) has a slight per-spinlock cost, while the non-preemptable kernel has the fixed cost of checking for rescheduling, at intervals throughout all 'interesting' kernel code, essentially all long-running loops. But by clever coding it's possible to finesse away almost all the overhead of those loop checks, so in the end, the non-preemptible low-latency patch has a slight efficiency advantage here, with emphasis on 'slight'. -- Daniel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/