Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759616AbYBOXiU (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:38:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754800AbYBOXiL (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:38:11 -0500 Received: from smtp2.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.14]:60570 "EHLO smtp2.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751835AbYBOXiJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:38:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:37:32 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Russell King Cc: greg@kroah.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, jeff@garzik.org, davem@davemloft.net, arjan@infradead.org, sfr@canb.auug.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) Message-Id: <20080215153732.a93caec7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20080215232308.GC31474@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <20080212044314.GA4888@kroah.com> <20080211211751.3e265754@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20080211.221126.230471463.davem@davemloft.net> <47B1CB08.4020101@garzik.org> <20080212174824.GA1919@kroah.com> <20080212191552.GA20883@kroah.com> <20080212204813.GA21650@kroah.com> <20080215232308.GC31474@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1894 Lines: 40 On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:23:08 +0000 Russell King wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:48:13PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > I have tried, and successfully done this many times in the past. The > > kobject change was one example: add a new function, migrate all users of > > a direct pointer over to that function, after that work is all done and > > in, change the structure and do the needed work afterward. All is > > bisectable completly, with no big "flag day" needed. > > Incorrect - because this all happened far too quickly. This is one of > the reasons that I ended up having to redo various parts of the ARM tree > because stuff broke - set_kset_name() completely vanished introducing > compile errors, and iirc some merge issues as well. > > I had patches introducing new system objects which use that, and > modifications extremely close to other uses in the PXA code. > > The end result (through rebuilding the affected parts of my git tree, and > asking people for replacement patches) was something that is bisectable - > but had I tried to merge stuff as is, it would've been an utter mess, and > _was_ unbuildable. > I wonder why I didn't see any of this - I build arm allmodconfig at least once a week, usually more frequently. So either the offending patches weren't in my pile or arm allmodconfig is worse than I thought :( It really is in arch maintainers' best interest to keep their allmodconfig in good shape, for this reason. arm's _isn't_ in good shape: the compile fails for several long-standing reasons (eg: no hope of building DRM) and I don't think the coverage is very broad either. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/