Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761563AbYBSVzb (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:55:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1761362AbYBSVzJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:55:09 -0500 Received: from hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.116]:3367 "EHLO hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1761271AbYBSVzH (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:55:07 -0500 From: Frans Pop To: Adrian Bunk Subject: Re: Unable to continue testing of 2.6.25 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:55:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds References: <200802171025.30590.elendil@planet.nl> <20080217131611.GA1403@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> In-Reply-To: <20080217131611.GA1403@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802192255.02152.elendil@planet.nl> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Feb 2008 21:55:02.0967 (UTC) FILETIME=[1489CC70:01C87342] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1717 Lines: 34 On Sunday 17 February 2008, Adrian Bunk wrote: > The real problem is that the kernel seems to lack functionality you > require for doing some work. Not sure how you reached that conclusion. > Why does your work on the Debian Installer depend on VirtualBox and > can't be done with what the kernel already ships? Work on the installer does not so much hard depend on VirtualBox (or any other emulator), but can be done much more effectively and efficiently using one. It allows me to run the installer inside the emulator without the need for a second computer (and using the same keyboard). It allows me to take snapshots just before stages I'm interested in and then add debugging or try changes. If what I tried does not work, I can just revert to the snapshot and try something else without having to run the full installation from scratch. It allows me to easily test RAID setups without having multiple physical disks. Etc. The fact that VirtualBox does not (yet) work for me with 2.6.25 means that I'm unable to run 2.6.25 on my main desktop and do any real work. Rebooting my desktop whenever I want to use VirtualBox is just not a realistic option. That in turn means that I cannot do any more testing of 2.6.25, because most of the testing I do consists of just using a new kernel and critically observing the behavior of my system. As I've caught a fair number of bugs that way for the past few releases, I'd say that's a useful contribution. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/