Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:51:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:51:23 -0500 Received: from lacrosse.corp.redhat.com ([12.107.208.154]:45587 "EHLO lacrosse.corp.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:51:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3C3C58E0.EB1333F0@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 14:51:12 +0000 From: Arjan van de Ven Reply-To: arjanv@redhat.com Organization: Red Hat, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrea Arcangeli , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable In-Reply-To: <000a01c19917$0b567ec0$0501a8c0@psuedogod>; from ed.sweetman@wmich.edu on Wed Jan 09 2002 at 09:07:55AM -0500 <20020109152717.J1543@inspiron.school.suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:07:55AM -0500, Ed Sweetman wrote: > > Ok so the medicine is worse than the disease. I take it that you only want > > some key points made for rescheduling instead of the full preempt patch by > > Robert. That seems logical enough. The only issue i see is that for the > > My ideal is to have the kernel to be as low worst latency as -preempt, > but without being preemptive. that's possible to achieve, I don't think > we're that far. > > mean latency is another matter, but I personally don't mind about mean > latency and I much prefer to save cpu cycles instead. hear hear! The akpm patch is achieving a MUCH better latency than pure -preempt, and only has 40 or so coded preemption points instead of a few hundred (eg every spin_unlock).... and if with 40 we can get <= 1ms then everybody will be happy; if you want, say, 50 usec latency instead you need RTLinux anyway. With 1ms _worst case_ latency the "mean" latency is obviously also very good....... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/