Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763694AbYBTWha (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:37:30 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752910AbYBTWhR (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:37:17 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:56948 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752301AbYBTWhQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:37:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:36:54 -0800 From: Arjan van de Ven To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, sandmann@redhat.com, tglx@tglx.de, hpa@zytor.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: add the debugfs interface for the sysprof tool Message-ID: <20080220143654.20ae7bea@laptopd505.fenrus.org> In-Reply-To: <1203543869.6243.106.camel@lappy> References: <20080219123756.6261c13c@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1203531375.6243.52.camel@lappy> <20080220103940.0a0b5ce0@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1203533622.6243.55.camel@lappy> <20080220112655.18011dab@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1203541122.6243.103.camel@lappy> <20080220130736.4ccb2687@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1203543869.6243.106.camel@lappy> Organization: Intel X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1586 Lines: 44 On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:44:29 +0100 Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 13:07 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:58:42 +0100 > > Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 11:26 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > > > feel free to reinvent a whole GUI just to avoid a 200 line > > > > kernel module. sysprof is here. it works. > > > > > > > the gui is REALLY nice. > > > > > > I guess we have to agree to disagree here. Its plain useless from > > > my POV. > > > > that's fine. Different tools for different people. sysprof isn't > > aimed at kernel developers. > > That was speaking from userland days. > > But you forgot the more important points about API and wild-growth of > duplicate interfaces. yes there's multiple interfaces. There are multiple interfaces *today*. Oprofile/perfmon2 are very focused on CPU events and have complex interfaces, sysprof has a much more simple interface (and yes, very specific to syspref) that just focuses on samples. Sadly, I think there's use for both, and forcing both into the same straightjacket is a mistake imo. -- If you want to reach me at my work email, use arjan@linux.intel.com For development, discussion and tips for power savings, visit http://www.lesswatts.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/