Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:13:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:13:08 -0500 Received: from wire.cadcamlab.org ([156.26.20.181]:29191 "EHLO wire.cadcamlab.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:12:58 -0500 From: Peter Samuelson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14876.33838.105932.172701@wire.cadcamlab.org> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:42:54 -0600 (CST) To: "Albert D. Cahalan" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: kernel-2.4.0-test11 crashed again; this time i send you the Oops-message In-Reply-To: <20001122190747.K2918@wire.cadcamlab.org> <200011230158.eAN1wSr138515@saturn.cs.uml.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid X-Face: ?*2Jm8R'OlE|+C~V>u$CARJyKMOpJ"^kNhLusXnPTFBF!#8,jH/#=Iy(?ehN$jH }x;J6B@[z.Ad\Be5RfNB*1>Eh.'R%u2gRj)M4blT]vu%^Qq The infamous LINK_FIRST infrastructure was sort of half-way done. I disagree: it could handle all cases I could see that we might reasonably care about. I challenge anyone to come up with a non-pathological case that could not be taken care of with a single LINK_FIRST and/or a single LINK_LAST. The worst I can think of is something like "all PCI drivers must come before all ISA drivers" which would require listing all of one set or the other. But when you see a case like that, it often means "this directory really needs to be split", because you have two different classes of things in a single directory. > It would be best to cause drivers with an unspecified link order > to move around a bit, so that errors may be discovered more quickly. That was the plan -- in 2.5. (The 2.4 version did not disturb any order at all, unless you explicitly put a LINK_FIRST declaration in the individual makefile.) Now that LINK_FIRST is officially dead, none of this will probably happen at all. > LINK_FIRST is pretty coarse. One would want a topological sort, or at > least LINK_0 through LINK_9 _without_ anything else. Too complex, no easy upgrade path (read: too different from status quo), very little benefit over LINK_FIRST + LINK_LAST. For the topological sort in particular I'm interestested in how it's even possible to do in a non-intrusive and maintainable way. Peter - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/