Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763502AbYBWUoR (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:44:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754259AbYBWUoI (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:44:08 -0500 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.13]:50362 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752977AbYBWUoH (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:44:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:42:34 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Soeren Sandmann Cc: John Levon , Ingo Molnar , Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@tglx.de, hpa@zytor.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: add the debugfs interface for the sysprof tool Message-Id: <20080223124234.665c01a7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20080219123756.6261c13c@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20080223001130.d8922136.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080223113724.GB31304@elte.hu> <20080223135335.GA28464@totally.trollied.org.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.8.17; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1034 Lines: 20 On 23 Feb 2008 21:15:52 +0100 Soeren Sandmann wrote: > It was only later I tried oprofile and found it not only much more > difficult to use, but also much less useful when I did get it to work. Could we please be very careful to not conflate oprofile's kernel support with oprofile userspace? For the purposes of this discussion the distinction is most important. I _assume_ you're referring to oprofile userspace which I agree is user-hostile. It is a rich area for others to improve upon. In so doing they might even have a need to change oprofile's kernel code. But simply giving up and going off and implementing some parallel kernel code is an utter last resort and should only be done after it has been shown that the current kernel code is unfixable. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/