Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757636AbYBXVml (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:42:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754014AbYBXVmc (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:42:32 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:36962 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753972AbYBXVmb (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:42:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:42:53 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Alan Stern Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Pierre Ossman , Zdenek Kabelac , Kernel development list , pm list Subject: Re: [Bug 10030] Suspend doesn't work when SD card is inserted Message-ID: <20080224214253.GE18908@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20080224201105.GC18908@elf.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1966 Lines: 47 On Sun 2008-02-24 15:33:01, Alan Stern wrote: > On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > > > What locking protects this variable? What happens when suspending_task > > > > exits? (Hmm, that would probably be bug, anyway?) > > > > > > It's protected by whatever existing locking scheme allows only one > > > task to start a system sleep at a time. For example, the suspending > > > task has to get a write lock on pm_sleep_rwsem. > > > > And readers of suspending_task are protected by? > > I added a comment about that too. > > > At the very least, you'd need rmb() before reading it and wmb() after > > writing to it, but I'm not sure if that's enough on every obscure > > architecture out there. > > No, neither one is needed because of the way suspending_task is used. > > It's not necessary for a reader R to see the variable's actual value; > all R needs to know is whether or not suspending_task is equal to R. > Since the only process which can set suspending_task to R is R itself, > and since R will set suspending_task back to NULL before releasing the > write lock on pm_sleep_rwsem, there's never any ambiguity. Subtle. Very subtly wrong ;-). imagine suspending_task == 0xabcdef01. Now task "R" with current == 0xabcd0000 reads suspending_task while the other cpu is writing to it, and sees 0xabcd0000 (0xef01 was not yet written) -- and mistakenly believes that "R" == suspending_task. I agree it is very unlikely, and it will not happen on i386. But what about just using atomic_t suspending_task, and store current->pid into it? Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/