Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759918AbYBZJDH (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:03:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751838AbYBZJCs (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:02:48 -0500 Received: from mx3.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.1.138]:53599 "EHLO mx3.mail.elte.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751032AbYBZJCq (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:02:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:02:23 +0100 From: Ingo Molnar To: Anton Blanchard Cc: Soeren Sandmann , John Levon , Andrew Morton , Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@tglx.de, hpa@zytor.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: add the debugfs interface for the sysprof tool Message-ID: <20080226090223.GG9857@elte.hu> References: <20080219123756.6261c13c@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20080223001130.d8922136.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080223113724.GB31304@elte.hu> <20080223135335.GA28464@totally.trollied.org.uk> <20080226051307.GC17772@kryten> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080226051307.GC17772@kryten> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamScore: -1.5 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-1.5 required=5.9 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.2.3 -1.5 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1057 Lines: 28 * Anton Blanchard wrote: > This surprises me. Can you please elaborate on why oprofile is "much > less useful" than sysprof? see the thread you are replying to. > Anton - who has used oprofile to analyse and tune databases, JVMs, > compilers and operating systems. Maybe I've been missing out on > the killer app for all this time!!! it's OK if you use it full time and if you are amongst the 0.001% of the developer population we call "the best kernel hackers on the planet" ;-) It sucks badly if you use it occasionally and have to re-learn its non-trivial usage and its quirks every time. As it happens, most userspace developers are in this second category. (and i'm not worried about the first category at all - if needed they can write their own OS from scratch ;-) Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/