Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933615AbYB2VHy (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:07:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755903AbYB2VHp (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:07:45 -0500 Received: from hawking.rebel.net.au ([203.20.69.83]:57493 "EHLO hawking.rebel.net.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757537AbYB2VHp (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:07:45 -0500 Message-ID: <47C87460.2030705@davidnewall.com> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:38:48 +1030 From: David Newall User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pavel Roskin CC: "John W. Linville" , Linus Torvalds , Zan Lynx , linux-kernel , Jon Masters , Rusty Russell Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.25] module: allow ndiswrapper to use GPL-only symbols References: <1204236662.3612.6.camel@dv> <20080229012012.ajlsk4pow8wkkgss@webmail.spamcop.net> <1204304352.6767.21.camel@localhost> <1204305609.21719.16.camel@dv> <1204313978.2316.8.camel@dv> <20080229201711.GF3234@tuxdriver.com> <47C86DCA.5080706@davidnewall.com> <1204318797.2316.29.camel@dv> In-Reply-To: <1204318797.2316.29.camel@dv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1655 Lines: 40 Pavel Roskin wrote: > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 07:10 +1030, David Newall wrote: > >> John W. Linville wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 02:39:38PM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I doubt ndiswrapper will ever be ported to the >>>> userspace. It's much more likely that some other approach will be used. >>>> >>>> >>> Maybe it should be -- that might solve a lot of problems >>> >> Maybe it's time to rename it from "ndiswrapper" to "NdisWrapper". >> >> How stupid do you have to be to not see that it will be fixed in any way >> necessary. >> > > I'm quite sure that something like that is going to be the short term > fix. Still, it would be nice to have a more long term solution, the one > that tries to resolve the tensions rather than hide them. I'm not sure > it's possible, but just trying to negotiate could help find > understanding I think there's a political agenda, and that's something that nobody can solve. The simplest solution is to change the name it uses on a regular basis, and that something relatively unimportant. People will still call it ndiswrapper, but it will identify itself to the kernel as wrappythingy, and then ndisthingy, and then wrapndis. Heck, make it purely random. Solve the problem for all time. It's a stupid problem promulgated by stupid people, and I use the word "stupid" in it's most pejorative sense. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/