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From: "linux-os (Dick Johnson)" <linux-os@analogic.com>
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Jesper Juhl wrote:

> On 03/03/2008, linux-os (Dick Johnson) <linux-os@analogic.com> wrote:
>>
> <snip>
>>
>> That's the problem trying to support devices in production.
>>  The last kernel I was able to locate for the x86_64 project
>>  is linux-2.6.23. Its dates are from late last year so maybe
>>  it will work!
>>
>>  It is now being compiled one one of the target machines.
>>  If this works, I'll have to find the differences between
>>  the old and the newer and patch the linux-2.6.11 because
>>  it is a "certified" kernel, i.e., selected by the FAA and
>>  determined to be politically correct!
>
> So, you take a "certified" kernel, then you patch it, which leaves you
> with what? Certainly not a certified kernel. You might as well go with
> the latest 2.6.24.3 sources then...
>
>>
> <snip>
>>

You are preaching to the choir. When doing government things
we can't resort to logic, only "rules!" Here's an example
of why; We decide to use the latest kernel which, BTW, we are
not allowed to decide that ourselves, we would have to obtain
a consensus from lots of "interested" people, including the
people who move equipment into place (will a later kernel
weigh more? ..They need to know). The process of selecting
a new kernel could take a year. Then, it needs to be
re-certified, which could cause a few million dollars (I am
not kidding...there are people who, working out of their
YMCA rooms, charge the government $600 / hour for such
code-reviews, etc).

That's why we almost always try for a "permissive" change.
In this case, after verifying that the USB works on a
later kernel (it does), I need to find out what changes
were made to make it work and I need to incorporate those
changes into the older driver.

Adding insult to injury, I find that the driver was not
changed much, but the memory allocation scheme for bounce
buffers. To review this stuff takes a lot of nights and
weekends because nobody will give me a hint of the changes
made to make USB work. It's not in any "Changes"
documentation, but somebody knows --and they aren't
telling!


Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.6.22.1 on an i686 machine (5588.28 BogoMips).
My book : http://www.AbominableFirebug.com/
_


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