Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1764455AbYCFPnc (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:43:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756507AbYCFPnZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:43:25 -0500 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.186]:14806 "EHLO gv-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755942AbYCFPnY (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:43:24 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=elluewphmJXrpY+OIi11BoFRbrBFfIsbi428VXKPl7QDPudUyMTLiNoJiHBtZbSqqjR7MrEp5Z85MmuTOZRkh2wzTZUUYox+/sLeLbD34hBKiFqkrbfE0l1ct55o0lGQNNBB3krWJKQhPyOvAvavs6cqMtGjSdevYMZFkxxlxVM= Message-ID: <6dc9ffc80803060743h502fc96bj6117ef87a8555c3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:43:16 -0800 From: "H.J. Lu" To: NightStrike Subject: Re: RELEASE BLOCKER: Linux doesn't follow x86/x86-64 ABI wrt direction flag Cc: "Olivier Galibert" , "H. Peter Anvin" , "Chris Lattner" , "Michael Matz" , "Richard Guenther" , "Joe Buck" , "Jan Hubicka" , "Aurelien Jarno" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47CF11D6.7070901@zytor.com> <738B72DB-A1D6-43F8-813A-E49688D05771@apple.com> <2F47E21A-9055-4EC3-99CF-B666BBC045C3@apple.com> <47CF3F09.4080606@zytor.com> <578FCA7D-D7A6-44F6-9310-4A97C13CDCBE@apple.com> <47CF44E7.3020106@zytor.com> <20080306135139.GA5236@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1245 Lines: 29 I agree with it. There is no right or wrong here Let's start from scratch and figure out what is the best way to handle this, assuming we are defining a new psABI. H.J. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:37 AM, NightStrike wrote: > > On 3/6/08, Olivier Galibert wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 05:12:07PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > It's a kernel bug, and it needs to be fixed. > > > > I'm not convinced. It's been that way for 15 years, it's that way in > > the BSD kernels, at that point it's a feature. The bug is in the > > documentation, nowhere else. And in gcc for blindly trusting the > > documentation. > > The issue should not be evaluated as: "It's always been that way, > therefore, it's right." Instead, it should be: "What's the right way > to do it?" > > You don't just change documentation because no existing code meets the > requirement -- UNLESS -- the non-conforming code is actually the right > way to do things. > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/