Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:18:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:17:53 -0500 Received: from ns.ithnet.com ([217.64.64.10]:8452 "HELO heather.ithnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:17:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:16:57 +0100 From: Stephan von Krawczynski To: Andrew Morton Cc: ed.sweetman@wmich.edu, andrea@suse.de, yodaiken@fsmlabs.com, jogi@planetzork.ping.de, rml@tech9.net, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, nigel@nrg.org, landley@trommello.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable Message-Id: <20020112221657.1851a41a.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: <3C409B2D.DB95D659@zip.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1010781207.819.27.camel@phantasy> <20020112121315.B1482@inspiron.school.suse.de> <20020112160714.A10847@planetzork.spacenet> <20020112095209.A5735@hq.fsmlabs.com> <3C409B2D.DB95D659@zip.com.au> Organization: ith Kommunikationstechnik GmbH X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:23:09 -0800 Andrew Morton wrote: > Ed Sweetman wrote: > > > > If you want to test the preempt kernel you're going to need something that > > can find the mean latancy or "time to action" for a particular program or > > all programs being run at the time and then run multiple programs that you > > would find on various peoples' systems. That is the "feel" people talk > > about when they praise the preempt patch. > > Right. And that is precisely why I created the "mini-ll" patch. To > give the improved "feel" in a way which is acceptable for merging into > the 2.4 kernel. Hm, I am not quite sure about what you expect to hear about it, but: a) It applies cleanly to 2.4.18-pre3. b) It compiles c) During a load of around 150 produced by (of course :-) "make -j bzImage" and concurrent XMMS playing while my mail-client and mozilla are open, I cannot "feel" a real big difference in interactivity compared to vanilla kernel. XMMS hickups sometimes, mouse does kangaroo'ing, switching around different X-screens and screen refresh (especially mozilla of course) are no big hit. This is a dual PIII-1GHz/2 GB RAM and some swap. During make no swapping is going on. Sorry, but I cannot see (feel) the difference in _this_ test (if this is really a test for what you intend to do). Compile time btw makes no difference either. Perhaps this try is rather something for ingo and the scheduler... Regards, Stephan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/