Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:22:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:22:43 -0500 Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl ([194.109.127.139]:52749 "EHLO smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:22:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3C40A8EF.D45600E3@linux-m68k.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:21:51 +0100 From: Roman Zippel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com CC: Rob Landley , Robert Love , Alan Cox , nigel@nrg.org, Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable In-Reply-To: <1010781207.819.27.camel@phantasy> <20020111195018.A2008@hq.fsmlabs.com> <20020112042404.WCSI23959.femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> <20020111220051.A2333@hq.fsmlabs.com> <3C4023A2.8B89C278@linux-m68k.org> <20020112052802.A3734@hq.fsmlabs.com> <3C40392F.C4E1EFF3@linux-m68k.org> <20020112075638.A5098@hq.fsmlabs.com> <3C4076EC.FEA42077@linux-m68k.org> <20020112122307.A6034@hq.fsmlabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi, yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote: > We're having a write only discussion - time to stop. Sorry, but I'm still waiting for the proof that preempting deadlocks the system. If n running processes have together m time slices, after m ticks every process will have run it's full share of the time, no matter how often you schedule. (I assume here a correct time accounting, which is currently not the case, but that's a different (and not new) problem.) So even the low priority process will have the same time as before to do it's job, it will be delayed, but it will not be delayed forever, so I'm failing to see how preempting Linux should deadlock. bye, Roman - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/