Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756541AbYCMTDT (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:03:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754704AbYCMTDL (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:03:11 -0400 Received: from phunq.net ([64.81.85.152]:52057 "EHLO moonbase.phunq.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754697AbYCMTDL (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:03:11 -0400 From: Daniel Phillips To: ric@emc.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:02:47 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Cc: Lars Marowsky-Bree , Alan Cox , Grzegorz Kulewski , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200803092346.17556.phillips@phunq.net> <20080311215601.GM23784@marowsky-bree.de> <47D92BBB.6000203@emc.com> In-Reply-To: <47D92BBB.6000203@emc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803131202.48135.phillips@phunq.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1384 Lines: 33 On Thursday 13 March 2008 06:27, Ric Wheeler wrote: > >>> So "perfectly reliable if UPS power does not fail" seems a bit over the > >>> top. > >> It works for EMC :-) > > > > Where they control the hardware and run a rather specialized OS as well, > > not a general purpose system like Linux on "commodity" hardware ;-) > > Actually, in Centera we use generic hardware with a fairly normal kernel > which has strategic backports from upstream (libata, nic drivers, etc). > > No UPS in the picture. Data integrity is protected by working with the > application team to insure they understand when data is safely on the > disk platter and working with IO & FS people to try and make sure we > don't lie to them (too much ) about that promise. > > The centera boxes are tested with power failure & error injection and by > all of our customers in all those ways customers do ;-) Hi Ric, Right, so Linux has gotten to the point where it competes with purpose- built embedded software in reliability. Not quite there, but close enough for mission-critical. I was not thinking of Centera when I mentioned the UPS though... Daniel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/