Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753209AbYCPNhA (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:37:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751872AbYCPNgx (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:36:53 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:43909 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751861AbYCPNgw (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:36:52 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:14:49 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Daniel Phillips Cc: Willy Tarreau , David Newall , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet Message-ID: <20080316131449.7d114d37@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <200803152033.08788.phillips@phunq.net> References: <200803092346.17556.phillips@phunq.net> <200803151533.10797.phillips@phunq.net> <20080315232221.GA24227@1wt.eu> <200803152033.08788.phillips@phunq.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1431 Lines: 35 > Anecdote time. Remember there used to be "brand name" floppy disks and > generic floppy disks, and the brand name ones cost a lot more because > they were supposedly safer? Well, big secret, studies were done and > the no-name disks came out better. Why? Because selling at commodity > prices the generic makers could not afford returns. So they made them > well. Which is not the case for PCs > > It is like that with PCs. Nope. > when you spend more money and buy all high end near-custom gear. In > fact, the cheap stuff just keeps on chugging, because those guys can't > afford to have it break. They don't care if it breaks after 12 months, and for components and addons they don't care if it breaks, they just blame the end user for mis-installation or 'incompatibility'. There is a huge difference in quality between high end server boards and cheap desktop PC systems. > Right. What we are talking about is filling in a missing level in the > cache hierarchy, something like: Perhaps. But if your cache can destroy the contents of the layer below in situations that do occur it isn't useful. If you can fix that then it obviously has a lot of potential. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/