Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753708AbYCPTEk (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:04:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752478AbYCPTEd (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:04:33 -0400 Received: from www.church-of-our-saviour.org ([69.25.196.31]:48121 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752506AbYCPTEc (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:04:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:04:06 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Alan Cox Cc: Daniel Phillips , Willy Tarreau , David Newall , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet Message-ID: <20080316190406.GM27847@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Alan Cox , Daniel Phillips , Willy Tarreau , David Newall , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200803092346.17556.phillips@phunq.net> <200803151533.10797.phillips@phunq.net> <20080315232221.GA24227@1wt.eu> <200803152033.08788.phillips@phunq.net> <20080316131449.7d114d37@the-village.bc.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080316131449.7d114d37@the-village.bc.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@mit.edu X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1379 Lines: 28 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 01:14:49PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > when you spend more money and buy all high end near-custom gear. In > > fact, the cheap stuff just keeps on chugging, because those guys can't > > afford to have it break. > > They don't care if it breaks after 12 months, and for components and > addons they don't care if it breaks, they just blame the end user for > mis-installation or 'incompatibility'. There is a huge difference in > quality between high end server boards and cheap desktop PC systems. Actually, it's worse than that. Users have been trained that when a computer bluescreens and losing all of their data, it's either (a) just the way things are, or (b) it's microsoft's fault. Worse yet, thanks to things like PC benchmarks, hard drive manutacturers have in the past been encouraged to do things like lie to the OS about when things had hit the hard drive platter just to score higher numbers on winbench. All of this is why I've in the past summed all of this up as Ted's law of PC class hardware, which is that PC class hardware is cr*p. :-) - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/