Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754709AbYCPXBV (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:01:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752778AbYCPXBO (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:01:14 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:39158 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752609AbYCPXBN (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:01:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:46:33 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Daniel Phillips Cc: Willy Tarreau , David Newall , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet Message-ID: <20080316224633.140a5c99@core> In-Reply-To: <200803161536.20128.phillips@phunq.net> References: <200803092346.17556.phillips@phunq.net> <200803161457.04580.phillips@phunq.net> <20080316215547.07824de7@core> <200803161536.20128.phillips@phunq.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.5; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1118 Lines: 23 > Hostility does not equate to accuracy. Galileo comes to mind. I see no attempt to even discuss the use of two sets of physical storage to maintain coherent snapshots, just comments about hostility. That's a fairly poor way to repay people who spend a lot of time working with enterprise customers and are interested in solutions using things like giant ramdisks and are putting in time to discuss alternative ways of achieving the desired result. > I see people arguing that a server+linux+batteries+mirroring+replication > cannot achieve enterprise grade reliability. Balderdash. I look forward to seeing your constructive detailed analysis of failure modes based upon actual statistical data from real data centres. Unless you can produce that nobody is going to take you seriously, which is bad luck for the poor folks at violin if they are relying on you. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/