Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755177AbYCQD4b (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:56:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752301AbYCQD4W (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:56:22 -0400 Received: from mail.lang.hm ([64.81.33.126]:58796 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751325AbYCQD4W (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:56:22 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:59:14 -0700 (PDT) From: david@lang.hm X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Daniel Phillips cc: David Newall , Alan Cox , Willy Tarreau , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet In-Reply-To: <200803161942.01944.phillips@phunq.net> Message-ID: References: <200803092346.17556.phillips@phunq.net> <200803161457.04580.phillips@phunq.net> <47DDC9EC.4060208@davidnewall.com> <200803161942.01944.phillips@phunq.net> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 956 Lines: 23 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Daniel Phillips wrote: > On Sunday 16 March 2008 18:31, David Newall wrote: >> Daniel Phillips wrote: >>> The UPS provides a guarantee of commit to stable storage. No amount of >>> FUD will change that. >> >> What about system crashes? They guarantee that data will be lost. I > > Not if it is mirrored and replicated. Also nice if crashes are very > rare, which they are unless you work at it. if you are depending on replication over the network you have just limited your throughput to your network speed and latency. on an enterprise level machine the network can frequently be significantly slower than the disk array that you are so frantic to avoid waiting for. David Lang -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/