Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752550AbYCRHhM (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:37:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750870AbYCRHg7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:36:59 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:59114 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750763AbYCRHg6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:36:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:36:20 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Andi Kleen Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: [PATCH prototype] [0/8] Predictive bitmaps for ELF executables Message-Id: <20080318003620.d84efb95.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20080318209.039112899@firstfloor.org> References: <20080318209.039112899@firstfloor.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.5; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2224 Lines: 49 On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:09:34 +0100 (CET) Andi Kleen wrote: > This patchkit is an experimental optimization I played around with > some time ago. > > This is more a prototype still, but I wanted to push it out > so that other people can play with it. > > The basic idea is that most programs have the same working set > over multiple runs. So instead of demand paging all the text pages > in the order the program runs save the working set to disk and prefetch > it at program start and then save it at program exit. > > This allows some optimizations: > - it can avoid unnecessary disk seeks because the blocks will be fetched in > sorted offset order instead of program execution order. > - batch kernel entries (each demand page exception has some > overhead just for entering the kernel). This keeps the caches hot too. > - The prefetch could be in theory done in the background while the program > runs (although that is not implemented currently) Should be worthwhile for some things. > Some details on the implementation: Can't this all be done in userspace? Hook into exit() with an LD_PRELOAD, use /proc/self/maps and the new pagemap code to work out which pages of which files were faulted in, write that info into the elf file (or a separate per-executable shadow file), then use that info the next time the app is executed, either with an LD_PRELOAD or just a wrapper. > Drawbacks: > - No support for dynamic libraries right now (except very clumpsily > through the mmap_slurp hack). This is the main reason it is not > very useful for speed up desktops currently. > > - Executable files have to be writable by the user executing it > currently to get bitmap updates. It would be possible to let the > kernel bypass this, but I haven't thought too much about the security > implications of it. > However any user can use the bitmap data written by a user with > write rights. Those all get fixed with the userspace version? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/