Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754706AbYCST3M (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:29:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753411AbYCSTZl (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:25:41 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:39313 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753384AbYCSTZj (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:25:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:44:37 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Andi Kleen Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: [PATCH prototype] [0/8] Predictive bitmaps for ELF executables Message-Id: <20080318104437.966c10ec.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20080318172045.GI11966@one.firstfloor.org> References: <20080318209.039112899@firstfloor.org> <20080318003620.d84efb95.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080318141828.GD11966@one.firstfloor.org> <20080318095715.27120788.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080318172045.GI11966@one.firstfloor.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.5; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1461 Lines: 36 On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:20:45 +0100 Andi Kleen wrote: > > What's the permission problem? executable-but-not-readable files? Could > > Not writable. Oh. I doubt if a userspace implementation would even try to alter the ELF files, really - there seems to be no point in it. This is just complexity which was added by trying to do it in the kernel. > > be handled by passing your request to a suitable-privileged server process, > > I guess. > > Yes it could, but i dont even want to thi nk about all the issues of > doing such an interface. It is basically an microkernelish approach. > I prefer monolithic simplicity. It's not complex at all. Pass a null-terminated pathname to the server and keep running. The server will asynchronously read your pages for you. That's assuming executable+unreadable libraries and binaries actually need to be handled. If not: no server needed. > e.g. i am pretty sure your user space implementation would be far > more complicated than a nicely streamlined kernel implementation. > And I am really not a friend of unnecessary complexity. In the end > complexity hurts you, no matter if it is in ring 3 or ring 0. There is no complexity here. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/