Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758505AbYCYRps (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:45:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754766AbYCYRpi (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:45:38 -0400 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.248]:4017 "EHLO an-out-0708.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753237AbYCYRpg (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:45:36 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q9SqKWUYGP1KQUYvfl0Du/wKf66zWw0lsWIpW/MSfF7CJTJA81cFg4njaywFgo1uok6RSQ4DQ1DocRHCLSVVhUbqNDVhOAWDE6Hfk/wY/DhV+D8Ud0XhKpgTUuXz5TNeghNs7Ge8WUb6VaDn9Z/OAzy6GBNHHQG0UstGRJ7Kqvw= Message-ID: <87f94c370803251045h46cbdc0auc541302fbad4a3b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:45:35 -0400 From: "Greg Freemyer" To: "James Bottomley" Subject: Re: What to do about the 2TB limit on HDIO_GETGEO ? Cc: "Mark Lord" , "Jens Axboe" , "Jeff Garzik" , "Tejun Heo" , "Greg KH" , "Linus Torvalds" , "Andrew Morton" , "Linux Kernel" , "IDE/ATA development list" , linux-scsi In-Reply-To: <1206458278.3273.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47E875AD.1000901@rtr.ca> <47E87942.2020409@rtr.ca> <1206458278.3273.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2917 Lines: 74 On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:17 AM, James Bottomley wrote: > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 00:02 -0400, Mark Lord wrote: > > (resending .. forgot to copy the lists originally) > > > > We have a problem coming down the pipeline. > > > > Practically all utilities that care about it, > > use ioctl(fd, HDIO_GETGEO) to determine the starting > > sector offset of a hard disk partition. > > > > SCSI, libata, IDE, USB, Firewire.. you name it. > > > > The return value uses "unsigned long", > > which on a 32-bit system limits drive offsets to 2TB. > > > > There will be single drives exceeding this limit within > > the next 12 months or less, and we already have RAID arrays > > that exceed 2TB. > > > > So.. what's the replacement for HDIO_GETGEO on 32-bits ? > > > > One candidate might seem to be the existing /sys/block/dev/partition/start > > which I expect is already 64-bit friendly. > > > > But this requires about 150 lines of somewhat complex C code to access, > > using only the dev_t (from stat(2) on a file) as a starting point, > > or less if one relies upon the udev device name matching the sysfs device name. > > > > Is it time now for HDIO_GETGEO64 to make an appearance? > > Similar to how the existing BLKGETSIZE64 is supplanting BLKGETSIZE ? > > Perhaps I've missed something, but surely geometry doesn't make sense on > a >2TB drive does it? The only reason we use it on modern disks (which > usually make it up specially for us) is that the DOS partition scheme > requires it. Once we're over 2TB, isn't it impossible to use DOS > partitions (well, OK, unless you increase the sector size, but that's > only delaying the inevitable), so we can just go with a proper disk > labelling scheme and use BLKGETSIZE64 all the time. > I believe GUID Partition Tables (GPTs) are the answer. I believe one of the features of GPT is the elimination of the 32-bit sector restrictions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table Windows VISTA 64-bit supports GPTs on data disks and new Mac OS based systems have been using it on internal drives for a couple years at least. GPTs are part of the Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI), so they should be usable for PC bootable disks at some point. (Maybe now in some cases?) I'm not sure what the Linux Kernel support is for GPTs. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/