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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
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Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>:
> For 2.5 if things go to plan there will be no such thing as a "compiled in"
> driver. They simply are not needed with initramfs holding what were once the
> "compiled in" modules.

This is something of a bombshell.  Not necessarily a bad one, but...

Alan, do you have *any* *freakin'* *idea* how much more complicated
the CML2 deduction engine had to be because the basic logical entity
was a tristate rather than a bool?  If this plan goes through, I'm
going to be able to drop out at least 20% of the code, with most of
that 20% being in the nasty complicated bits where the maintainability
improvement will be greatest.  And I can get rid of the nasty "vitality"
flag, which probably the worst wart on the language.

Yowza...so how soon is this supposed to happen?
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