Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:02:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:01:49 -0500 Received: from dsl254-112-233.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.254.112.233]:6022 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:00:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:44:26 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Alan Cox Cc: Eli Carter , "Michael Lazarou (ETL)" , Linux Kernel List Subject: Re: Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution) Message-ID: <20020114134426.C17522@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Alan Cox , Eli Carter , "Michael Lazarou (ETL)" , Linux Kernel List In-Reply-To: <20020114132618.G14747@thyrsus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 07:00:13PM +0000 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Alan Cox : > The goal of a typical end user is "make it work, make it go away and do what > it did last week". Random mechanics hating car owners don't do engine tuning > jobs or fit turbochargers. No...but they do change their own oil and antifreeze. Upgrading your kernel should be as simple as changing your oil. > Secondly we've established we can pick the right CPU for the kernel reliably > that is seperate to modules. Right, but that doesn't get you a recompiled binary with extended instructions in it. > Thirdly building a lot of stuff modular is the right choice anyway - in the > world of hot plugging and USB Grandma is not going to want to recompile her > kernel because she bought a new trackball to boost her quake score. I'm not arguing with building a lot of stuff modular. The autoconfiugurator does exactly that for hot-plug buses. -- Eric S. Raymond "Are we to understand," asked the judge, "that you hold your own interests above the interests of the public?" "I hold that such a question can never arise except in a society of cannibals." -- Ayn Rand - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/