Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:08:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:08:48 -0500 Received: from dsl254-112-233.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.254.112.233]:8072 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:08:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:53:07 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Benjamin LaHaise Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Penelope builds a kernel Message-ID: <20020114205307.E24120@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Benjamin LaHaise , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020114165909.A20808@thyrsus.com> <20020114173542.C30639@redhat.com> <20020114173854.C23081@thyrsus.com> <20020114180007.D30639@redhat.com> <20020114180522.A24120@thyrsus.com> <20020114183820.G30639@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020114183820.G30639@redhat.com>; from bcrl@redhat.com on Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 06:38:20PM -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Benjamin LaHaise : > FYI, it's easy to fix, just use the correct ordering of download, transmit, > delete that sendmail and other MTAs use. I don't understand what you think you're seeing, but I am sure of this; if I had been enough of a drug-addled lunatic to allow fetchmail to delete mail before getting a positive acknowledge from the downstream MTA, someone in the pool of over two thousand people who have sent me bug reports and patches would have called me on it some time in the six years of production use well before *you* entered the picture. It's likely you're being hosed by an MTA that's sending back bogus 2xx responses. That's happend before. Fetchmail can't magically cope with MTAs that tell it lies. Fetchmail *already works the way you recommend* -- as any idiot can verify by reading the short section of the main driver loop where dispatch and delete takes place. That's been an invariant of the code since day one, and you thus clearly have no bloody idea what you are flaming about. Don't take my word for it. Go read the code. Until you've done so, I suggest you take it off-list before you embarrass yourself further. -- Eric S. Raymond A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. -- John Stuart Mill, writing on the U.S. Civil War in 1862 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/